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Ivan Hayden, visual effects supervisor,
Supernatural.
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Role on the show.
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The visual effects supervisor is there
to help the producers and
directors design and come up with
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the best, safest and most efficient
way to
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shoot the visual effects
and then make sure that
everything is shot in such a ways,
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that we can have the most
lateral motion in host.
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Creative challenges.
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We have to do a new ghost
or monster or creature every episode
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and we have to come up with
a way of getting the writers vision
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different than we’ve
seen every other time.
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For example, every time we do this
show there’s a new monster
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that dies and we don’t want
them all to go in the same way.
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Supernatural research.
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Vampires in our show don`t
turn into bats and fly away.
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So we have to come up with
the look for a monster
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that sticks with the vain of the show
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and although we do look at
what has been done in the past
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we also trying to put our own
fingerprint on it to give it our own
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look and technology has gone a lot
better so we can attempt to do things,
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you know, that they couldn`t
do in the past.
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Creating the signature style.
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This show is more about the
acting and the relationships
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between the two brothers
and how they grow.
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And the supernatural is sort of
the engine that takes it.
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It shouldn`t overpower what the boys
are doing and what the boys are becoming.
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So our effects are there to
enhance the danger and the drama,
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but not to detract from
the wonderful acting
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that both Jared and Jensen
do on every episode.
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Raising the bar.
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Every episode that we look at there
are the effects that we planned on doing
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and then we look at the show and we
look at the cuts around what we’re doing
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and sometimes we’ll say "Hey, you know
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it would be really cool if we made
that guy’s hand twitch."
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You know, he’s a dead corpse
and he is just laying there but
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sort of in a background wouldn`t it be
neat if his finger was twitching a little bit.
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Teamwork on set.
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One of the scenes that we have is
a woman is in her hotel room
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and the invisible dog claws her
pants off and cuts into her leg
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and she’s bleeding all over the place.
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And what we did is special effects
tore the pants,
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a special effects make up put
the application on her leg.
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It can`t be done without everybody.
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I mean, every single person on
the show makes every effect work.
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Loving Supernatural.
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Every single episode we have
to do something else.
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And it`s like playing. It’s you know,
everyday it`s like being a kid,
you get to pretend and your like
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"Hey, wouldn`t it be cool if the werewolf
and it`s mouth sort of went this way."
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It`s a lot of fun.
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Old-School haunted houses.
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ecret passage ways, fog...
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Might even run into Fred and
Daphne while we're inside.
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Daphne...
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I definitely set out
to do a horror movie.
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A tv series that kind of caught the vibe
of The Ring and The Grudge.
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Yeah, like strange.
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You know it’s one of the rules of the show
is that we don’t invent anything.
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Every story we tell
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and every episode is based on
like a real piece of folk lore.
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There's 100 different legends
on the walking dead,
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but they all have different
methods for killing them.
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Some say setting them on fire.
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Feeding their hearts to wild dogs.
That's my personal favorite.
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Action.
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They showed up on the first day of
work with like eighty of these just little one
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liners of what episodes could be, just pulled
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from this real life folk lore
from across the country.
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You know like killer clowns and arm
ripped off and you know all these…
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John Shiban: The Licked hand
EK: Yeah the Licked hand
JS: Yeah that’s one of my favourites.
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It’s a fun show to work on
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because you don’t sit around
like banging your head
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against a wall, you just start doing research.
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And the homework is cool I mean with
all the ghost stories and stuff.
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- Or it's an invisible killer.
- My favorite kind.
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- What do you think, Scully? Wanna check it out?
- I'm not scully. You're Scully.
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No, i'm Mulder. You're a redheaded woman.
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We’ll pull from old and new horror movies
that we love and scenes that we knew
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and that’ll be a seed for an episode
and then we’ll start kicking it around and how…
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what the Winchester version of it is.
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We can`t stay here. We've got to
get out of here, ause somewhere...
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let people know what`s comming.
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Yeah, that`s a good pint.
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La Nuit des morts-vivants
se finit plutot mal.
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We will take vampires and do
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what other movies and shows
have done with vampires.
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We’re working on a werewolf idea
and it’s “How is it ours?”
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What’s different about it? What
makes it Supernatural monster? Not a…
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not one you would see
on something else, so
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they all have their origins in real
lore but then we run with it.
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157 names?
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- We got to narrow that down.
- Yeah.
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Or else we're gonna be diggingup a hell
of a lot of stiffs.
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Herman Webster Mudgett?
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- Wasn't that H.H. Holmes'real name?
- The term "multi-murderer".
they coined it to describe holmes.
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He was america's first serial killer.
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Cut.
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What’s great about these urban legends
is they’re all designed
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to have these shocking twists at the end.
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The escaped psychotic with the hook
for a hand, I just love that.
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You know where the boyfriend disappears
and the girls in the car, and she hears the scratching
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on the roof of the car, and she’s all
freaked out and then she finally escapes
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the car and turns around
and the boyfriend’s hanging
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upside down dead scratching
against the car.
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And we actually turned that into an episode
which I was really happy about, it’s a classic.
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Bloody Mary for me like always
scared the crap out of me.
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You’d go in the bathroom and turn out
the lights and say Bloody Mary in the mirror
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and she claws your eyes out.
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For my money that episode was really
scary. It’s like a gross joke basically,
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it’s the same pattern, set up
and then punch line.
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And that really lends itself dramatically,
you know, to a really satisfying show
because you get to have
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these fun little twists that
are like gross, shocking
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or scary or disturbing and
it really works out well.
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I'd say we've officially
crossed over into weird.
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And action.
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We’re telling episodes this season that
are philosophical, wildly structured,
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and we’re telling episodes that are
just going to be straight comedies.
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Awesome.
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You know one episode can be angsty
the next can be scary as hell,
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the other one can be funny, the other one
can be a romance and you can just keep
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hop-skotching in genres and form.
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- Los Angeles, California.
- What's in L.A.?
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A young girl's been kidnapped
by an evil cult.
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Yeah?
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- The girl got a name?
- Katie Holmes.
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Once we sort of settle on what the monster
is or the creature or the spirit.
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I think I know
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what we're dealing with here.
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It's the stay-puftmarshmallow man.
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- Beyond that what’s the story about?
- Right.
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And what is the personal story about and
how does this spirit, creature, monster
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effect our boys?
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So we always try to make
the stories a little deeper.
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- I'm one of them.
- No, you're not.
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Dean, the demon said he had plans for me
and children like me.
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- Yeah?
- Maybe this is his plan.
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Maybe we're all a bunch of psychic freaks.
Maybe we're all supposed to be...
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- What? Killers ?
- Yeah.
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So the demon wants you out there,
killing with your minds? Is that it?
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Give me a break.
You're not a murderer, Sam!
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- You don't have it in your bones.
- No?
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- Last I checked, I kill all kinds of things.
- Those things were asking for it.
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There's a difference.
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We have a show that’s about like
good and evil, and faith
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and destiny, and life and death and
it’s like the real big issues.
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The shows core is through
the emotion of the brothers
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and you know what we always say in the
writer’s room is you know everything is family.
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Whenever we’re in a dead end or
we can’t figure out we’re like:
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"Ok well it’s a family show,
what’s the
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family version of this?
And how to make that work".
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Before dad died, he...
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he told me something.
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- Something about you.
- What?
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Dean, what did he tell you?
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He said that he...
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Wanted me to watch out for you...
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Take care of you.
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- He told you that a million times.
- Well, this time was different.
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He said that I had to...
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Save you.
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- Save me from what?
- He just said that I had to save you and nothing else mattered.
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And that if I couldn't, I'd...
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You'd what,dean?
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I'd have to kill you.
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Most hour shows have a seven
day prep but this show
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can’t handle a seven day prep
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if they’re not prepping before
seven days we’re in trouble
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because of all the visual effects
and special effects.
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We’re building new sets every week,
we don’t have any permanent sets.
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So they at least have to get the
story way, way in advance.
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So I mean we lock in every big move and every
creature and every stunt and all the things you know,
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that we need to get rolling on,
because each one’s like
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a new deal every time.
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- Cut
- And that’s hard. I mean because that takes like
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you know research and development from the effects
guys and what’s it going to look like and how
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are they going to make that work and you
know everyone just, you know, just busts their ass
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just trying to get that done every week.
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Get down!
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I do sometimes read the fans stuff,
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and when people say “oh that was so
scary or that clown was terrifying.”
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I get a kick out of it, it’s great,
it’s exciting to, you know,
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leave people with images
that stick with them.
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It’s a way to have a roller coaster
ride and survive it.
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That’s how things roll around
here at Supernatural.
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- Our lives are weird, man.
- You're telling me?
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My name is Christopher Cooper,
I`m a props master for the Supernatural.
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The property master and the props
to department deal with everything
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the actors hold, touch, or accessorize by.
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Whether they’re drinking, firing guns,
playing with knives, or fighting evil,
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all the toys, really.
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Supernatural totally rules.
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That's holy water, you,
demonic son of a bitch!
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Stuff we get to do, stuff we get
to create, killing vampires
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and zombies, and shapeshifters,
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we’ve got all sorts of cool toys.
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Supernatural research.
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The urban tales all go back for hundreds of years
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and all that mythology definitely has its rules
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and, you know, we develop our own rules as we go along,
to deal with our vampires or shapeshifters.
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Creating the signature style.
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There`s the aesthetic element of course
and then there`s practical
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form follows function element
to make it work
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and of course it has to look cool.
That`s one of the most important parts.
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You always wanna do something new.
You want, whatever
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it is that you create, to be new
and unique. But at the same time
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it has to fit into the lore, you know,
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it has to make sense to whoever is
watching, that yeah, that`s gonna work,
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that`s a shapeshifter you gotta
have silver knife for that.
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Props for huntung.
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This is Dean Winchester`s favorite
gun, this is the colt 1911.
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Here we have Sam Winchester`s
favorite gun,
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this is the Tourist PT 99.
They specifically shoot blank,
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they can`t shoot real bullets,
of course.
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For firing the guns we always have
a couple of them on hand,
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incase a gun jams or something like that
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and then we have rubber versions, for if
there`s a fight, guys are getting banged
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around, might as well be use rubber guns.
We do a lot
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of retractable versions of knives
and spears. Stab your
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zombie
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and away you go.
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We do a lot of blood knives where
there`s a reservoir in the actor`s hand
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and as they draw the knife across the
arm the blood come out, so it looks like
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the knife is cutting.
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Every good hunter needs an EMF detector.
Electro magnetic frequency detector.
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We`ve also got the alien probe here.
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And i just leave that one alone.
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Loving Supernatural.
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Jensen and Jared are phenomenal guys
to work with. And they’re into doing
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absolutely everything. The producers,
the director, the production
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designer, art department is absolutely
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amazing what they can do
and what they create
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because they help design these
things and then, you know,
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I make them come to life.
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